I picked up an old Commodore 64 last December. When it arrived it looked well maybe not great, but mostly clean.

You can see it still has part of a keyboard cover unit attached. That was quite difficult to remove actually without causing damage..

Internally it looked fairly clean as well. I took the computer out of the case and cleaned the case mostly with soap and water as well as an old toothbrush. I did use some Baking Soda and a bit of water to make a paste like cleaner to scrub some stubborn spots. The case ended up looking pretty good, it is browned a bit but overall not too horrible.



Unfortunately the above images are what I was getting out of the computer when I first connected it up. It was flipping through a lot of garbage, I couldn’t even make it out. The camera picked up these images though showing me that something was working. Based on these images I expected a likely issue with the PLA to start. I ordered in a new modern PLAnkton chip to replace it.


The computer was working again after replacing the failed original PLA with a new PLAnkton chip. I had to desolder the original chip and solder in a new IC Socket. Then the computer powered up normally except an issue with the Keyboard. It acted like there was a stuck key, after disconnecting the keyboard it still acted like a stuck key. I pulled the left CIA chip there in the upper left corner. It is the CIA that controls the keyboard input. With it out the key wasn’t showing pressed. It was replaced at some point in the life of the computer so it was in a socket. So that seemed to mean the CIA chip was bad. I ordered a replacement chip. As the CIA was super tight in that socket I decided to replace it before putting in the new chip. I actually happened to have a new old stock socket in my stash of the proper size. I installed it and figured, I would test the CIA and see if I could do anything with it. The CIA fit better into this new socket, and it worked perfectly as well. So now I had a fully working Commodore 64.
I did do additional changes, such as replacing all of the electrolytic capacitors. Removing the metal shield around the VIC chip, and installing heatsinks on many of the chips. I also put heatsinks on the Cassette transistor and 12 Volt regulator. I replaced the heatsink compound on the 5Volt regulator. I purchased a full capacitor replacement kit from console5.com.
I also purchased the heatinks, new Din plugs for the Power Supply port, Serial Port, and Monitor ports from Console5.com. I used a new plug for the power port make myself a new safe power supply for the C64 (See my other post on that). I used one of the 6Pin plugs to make a Serial test plug for the Diagnostic Harness (see my other post on the Diagnostic Harness) as well as another for a Pi1541. I picked up the Horseshoe Din for the Monitor/Display Port and made a new Composite Video cable with the audio going to two connectors so I would have copied “mono” audio on my TV. I will be making a S-video cable out of another connector at some point provided I come across a display with S-video on it.
It seems a bit across the board as to “replace the Electrolytic Capacitors” or others will say “Don’t”. I will say if you aren’t using good quality capacitors, don’t waste your time, the old ones may be better or last longer if the new ones are junk. If they are leaking everyone says replace the leaking ones. I say if some are leaking, then others likely could at any time. So far as my experience went on the Commodore 64, I did find that at least some of the old capacitors were giving unexpected values. The old 10uF capacitors varied from 10.8uF to as high as 15uF with 6-8.4% v loss and 3.1 to 25 Ohms ESR. The new 10uF varied from 10.5uF to 10.71uF all at basically 1.2% v loss and 2.9 to 3.2Ohms ESR. I feel at the least that 25 Ohm ESR one was likely to become a problem, I am not so sure about several others. I have to say as the Capacitor kits at Console5.com are $5 to $8 (depending on the board revision) for good brand name capacitors it was certainly worth it for me. They carry them for all of the Commodore 64 Revisions, as well as the Commodore 128, the Commodore 128 Power Supplies (well at least two variants) and the 1541 drives. They also have the Commodore 64 Saver kit.
The keyboard was quite clean overall. I believe the cover was on it most of the time it was out of the box considering it was nearly pristine and only a couple of the springs had any rust on them. I took all of the key caps off with a key cap puller. I then hand washed all of the keys with soap and water. I brushed off the keyboard base and cleaned it with some
91% Isopropyl Alcohol as well, but I didn’t have to take the keyboard apart beyond that.
Black Screen failure..
Shortly after replacing the last of the capacitors it decided to act up and black screen on me. I ran the dead test cartridge and it told me the one ram chip was bad. First I retested my new power supply that it hadn’t went into an over voltage state. It was perfectly fine. I ordered in a replacement ram chip. When I went to desolder the chip, I found the one leg had been clipped off (the VCC pin) at the top and the soldered back on, as well as one of the other ram chips. The only chips that ever seemed to have been changed out was the left CIA and the VIC. I guess it was having an issue and someone was trying to troubleshoot it, I am not sure if that was back when the PLA originally failed or some other point. Anyways I finished removing that ram chip, being careful not to have that leg fall off. I then installed a new socket and put in the replacement Ram chip. I still had the black screen. I pulled the left CIA just in case, as it was socketed and not required to get a display. I then tried pulling the VIC and used contact cleaner on it and on the socket for it. Finally I decided it was time to desolder the SID, I really didn’t want to do that because there was a risk in ruining the chip in the process. I didn’t have anything else to try at that time, short of desoldering more ram chips, which I didn’t have replacements for. I did have sockets for the SID chip as well. When I went to desolder the SID I found the leads weren’t clipped at the factory, and some were folded over. The one lead was touching an adjacent trace. I believe that was causing the fault. I had gotten that far and decided to desolder the SID anyways. I removed it and tested the system, and it came up normally (well normal for no SID or left CIA. I soldered in a new socket and retested, the system still operated fine. After that I went back to the SID and finished straitening the legs out and installed it into the new socket. I was so glad to find it still worked after that as well. I then reinstalled the CIA and swapped back in the original Ram chip, it also worked. After that I ran the diagnostic cartridge with the full test harness through quite a few cycles for good measure. I finished installing the Heatsink on the VIC as I had removed the metal case around it. The VIC is quite hard to get an IC Puller in at with that case nearly touching the bottom edge of it. I actually removed that case before pulling the VIC. Later C64s didn’t have that case over the VIC so I figure I don’t really need it there.


Beyond that I cleaned the mainboard with an ESD Safe black brush to get the loose dirt off and some 91% Isopropyl Alcohol to get residues off of it as well as a bit of flux from the various new sockets as well as around the cartridge and power switch and the various ports.
It was fun getting this old machine going. I didn’t have one back in the day, although I had a used TI 99/4a at some point in the early 90s. So I guess that was my first computer, I didn’t really get to do much with it back then as I had nearly no software for it. I always liked the Apple IIs and such we used in school, and remember writing basic programs for them as well as later on doing that with our 486DX2 66mhz with Dos 6.2 and Windows 3.11 for Workgroups. I worked on the old 80s era IBMs including a few 5050s I had in the late 90s. I guess now I wish I had kept them. I even had a working luggable IBM 5155.. Well I never thought they would be worth anything more than scrap. Still I don’t know that I would have done anything with them. I worked on the IBM PS/2s in school, but never had one, even then I thought they were “weird”. The Commodore 64 is a fun system, and reasonably easy to work on.
It is a nice change working on these old computers compared to working on “modern” computers like I do during the day. It is nice getting into component level troubleshooting and repair.
After getting a second C64, I have found this unit has a only partially working SID. The third voice is not working on it. I only noticed it due to the other C64’s SID playing back more sound on the Diagnostics cartridge tests. If I used it more, I may have noticed some odd audio, but not being familiar with these computers back in the day, I don’t know how long that would have taken. I am figuring on getting a replacement, but I think I want to go with an ArmSID. Maybe next month I will be up to ordering one and see how it goes. My 128 has the same SID model in it, I could check it out to swap it, but I do currently have a fully working C64. I don’t have a good feeling for the chances of picking up a fully working original SID certainly a price that is much better than an ArmSID or other modern replacement. I like to keep them original as much as I can, but these chips are old, and not being made anymore, I don’t expect them to keep running another 3 decades.










































